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Delegates, Superdelegates, and Drama

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by Jack O’Spades

As I write this, I’m sitting looking over the results of Democratic conventions at: I’m doing this because; A: I have no social life, B: I seem sustain myself off of the anger and cynicism inherit in politics, and C: I have no social life. The latest results are somewhat worrying to me.



Long time readers are possibly aware of my distrust of Hillary Clinton, and my strong belief that she would be slaughtered in a race against McCain. Nothing will bring out Republicans to the polls, like flies to a corpse, than the prospect of another Clinton presidency, not too mention their fear of the HRC from the early years of the Clinton administration. Although I no longer see her as she was back then, the Republicans sure do, and the left isn’t exactly thrilled about her either. Her stance on foreign policy pisses off anti-war, populists and socialists are distrustful of the possible return of Rubinomic style neoliberalism, and some in labor are fearful of more NAFTA like polices.



Although the race is still neck and neck, two things may conspire to favor the Clinton campaign: Superdelegates and the return of Michigan and Florida delegates to the nomination process. Although Hillary’s lead in superdelegates has dropped sharply in the last few weeks, she still leads Obama in their support. If this were the end of the story Obama has a good chance of besting her for the nomination, that is if he continues his winning streak through the Ohio and Texas primaries. However, there is a possibility arising that could give the Clinton campaign a crucial edge, us.



As you may recall, the national Democratic National Convention stripped Michigan and Florida of our delegates because they’re quite possibly nut cases. I don’t know how they expected us to magically force our Republican state legislature (who for some strange reason controls the primaries of both parties) into not moving our state primaries forward. Particularly, when they tacked this primary switch up to a bill that would force a paper trail into Floridian voting. What Floridian Democrat could oppose such legislation, particularly if their district has many minority supporters? It would be a major middle finger to voters who are too often the target of voter suppression.



Anyway, to get back on track, apparently the Clinton campaign is trying to find a way to get our delegates back. She won big in both states, and now apparently we are important to her. I’m sorry Mrs. Clinton, you can’t have it both ways. You choose to snub us along with every other Democrat (well except for Gravel, he counts right?), you can’t change the rules because you’re loosing. Not to mention the fact that Obama wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan! Not exactly a fair fight, huh?



Look, I don’t hate Hillary, I just don’t like her. Not to say I’m a big fan of Obama either, they’re both pretty bland politicians who speak of change with hollow words. The only major difference is that Obama at least has a chance against McCain. I’d rather have the worst excesses of the Clinton administration, which both candidates seem to represent, rather than someone who seems all too willing to continue the present course.



So with all that rage vented I can properly welcome you to the March issue of the Populist Press. This month we have some interesting articles from near and far. We also welcome Mr. Scott Tess, organizer for the Fair Trade for a Greater Orlando Coalition, as a regular contributor to the Press, with an excellent editorial on contrasting the virtues of fair trade with problems inherit to so-called “free trade”. As always we have an article by our favorite investigative journalist, Mr. Greg Palast, on McCain’s transformation into a Republican hardliner.


The new issue of The Populist Press can be found at


Written by jackofspades83

March 9, 2008 at 3:14 pm

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  1. Florida’s screwed up too many elections to be cut any slack on this. The Florida Democrats were willing accomplices in violating party rules this year, just as it was Florida Democrats who screwed up the ballot and the counting in 2000.

    Florida not only shouldn’t count in the primary, it should never count in any Federal election ever again. It should be forcibly secedded — & I mean with lots & lotsa dynamite — & left to the mercies of more important Caribbean nations. Preferably if any would just take up cannibalism & solve the problem of Floridians breeding into the next generation.


    March 23, 2008 at 4:06 am

  2. I partially agree with you, but the problem isn’t Floridians in general, although in North Florida thats more difficult to say. The problem is most of our leaders are idiots, Republicans and Democrats alike. Florida’s population also suffers from a great deal of poverty and racism, and one of the worst school systems in the country. As such I find it difficult to blame Floridans for their ignorance when their environment is mostly to blame.

    As for 2000, that was a major blunder supported by many, many individuals. Supervisors of elections through out the state, both major political parties, and for the most part, the only privatized voter information database in the country, a la Choice Point DBT and Katherine Harris. The latter lead to minority voters being screwed on a scale unheard of, even by Jim Crow standards. Florida has certainly earned its reputation for both poorly conducted and unfair elections.

    However, I have never been given a sufficient answer as to why the Florida Democrats should be held responsible for this fiasco. Even if they voted against moving the primaries, the Republican controlled legislature would have had the power to move them anyway, for BOTH parties.

    From what I can make out, this power is given to the legislature because of the costs and logistics of running elections, so both primaries are to be held at the same time. The bill to move the primaries was also tied into a provision to force a paper trail in voting throughout the state. As I had mentioned earlier (and as you alluded to as well), Florida needs SERIOUS reform in the fairness and accuracy of its electoral process. What Democratic representative could go back to his constituents, many of whom would be disenfranchised minorities, and defend voting against such a bill, simply to please the national DEC. However, as I mentioned earlier, regardless of how the Democrats voted the bill was wanted by the Republican legislature and it was going to pass anyway.

    Is there any rational argument for punishing the Florida Democrats for something completely out of their control?


    March 23, 2008 at 3:26 pm

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